Forest Park mayor: Not selling Altenheim to OPRFHS

Informal proposal for high school baseball, softball, tennis ruled out

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By Jean Lotus

Editor

An informal meeting with a volunteer member of the Oak Park and River Forest High School pool committee and Forest Park Mayor Anthony Calderone ruled out the possibility of the high school to the east using the Altenheim property for high school sports.

"OPRF is interested in buying property. The Altenheim property is not for sale," Calderone texted Friday.

Tuesday, Pool Committee Volunteer Thomas Cronin, a River Forest lawyer, mentioned the Altenheim parcel, south of 7824 W. Madison St.,  at an OPRF public meeting as a possible spot for the relocation of OPRF baseball, softball or tennis programs. The high school will be building a new pool on the site of the current baseball diamonds.

Cronin told the Review he met with Calderone in early January to propose using the property for youth sports. Because the property had been proposed as a potential YMCA in 2007 and a site of a Fenwick sports stadium, Cronin said he thought the village would be amenable to using the parcel for high school sports.

"It's good for the neighboring communities. There is exploding activity in youth sports," he said.  "What I saw as my service on the committee, was to find solutions for the problem and investigate any space that's open or might be available."

"When you talk about youth sports, you have to think of Altenhiem," Cronin said. "Other people have identified [the parcel] as a possibility for local sports."

Cronin said he envisioned the parcel would be used for multiple schools, or shared with the park district as OPRFHS does with practice fields at Oak Park's Lindberg Park.

"There's no reason there couldn't be an asset that couldn't be owned by different taxing bodies," he said, noting that the pool committee was trying to be fiscally responsible. He said he envisioned "partnering with other public entities to service other kids in the area."

Cronin described his meeting with Calderone as casual and preliminary.

Calderone "listened to me and was very gracious. That was as far as it got," Cronin said.

But Calderone seemed to have ruled out the prospect Friday.

"After my short visit with Tom Cronin, we concluded there was nothing to discuss," he texted. "The Village of Forest Park will look forward to using this property in such a way that best serves the village," he added

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Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 25th, 2015 9:23 PM

Oh, ManFannyFanof CarlKarl, Even with my much lower IQ from having converted to The Church of Tony Eternal, I have to say that those videos were simply focused on the street, where, for some strange reason known only to Commissioner Hosty, he showed up most every morning, looked around, then dumped his pooper scooper load into the drain across from the Backman's. Even in my diminished mental capacity as a new convert to the scared cause of Tonyism, I can't understand how you would find that obsessive. Wouldn't it be Hosty who was being obsessive, showing up morning after morning to dump..well, you know what, across from his neighbor's house? You're far more used to functioning with a low intellect, ManDannyFan of CarlKarl, so help me out with this.

fan of Carl   

Posted: January 20th, 2015 7:51 PM

Although Steve and Gloria claim they have video cameras fixed on Hosty around the clock, they claim a lot of things. They claim they actually made an edited film of Hosty walking his dog and invited all the neighbors plus all vox donors into their home to view it. Bizarre? Yes especially since Steve has already been sued for invading the privacy of the Hosty home with his video camera. These two are literally obsessed with Hosty. As for the veracity of the poop-gate claims let's see the video!

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 7:13 PM

Oh, don't be such a doggone heretic, Sharon! I was simply suggesting that it's completely reasonable that Mark Hosty honestly confused a pooper scooper with an incense burner- OK, no smoke and a distinctly different smell, granted- anyways, where was I? AH! .. that he was, in actuality, trying to BLESS the couple across the street from where he was videoed dumping dog poop in the street on numerous winter mornings several years ago. I just refuse to buy into your negative inner darkness, Sharon. REPENT! I bet Amy will give you a column.

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 6:45 PM

"Perhaps the dog poop spreading was part of a sacred ritual..." spit take! not fair!

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 5:52 PM

First off, Jerry, REPENT! Secondly, I thought dog poop was the purview of a certain village commissioner. But since I have been brought into the golden light of the Forest Park Church of the Almighty Tony, I can offer no criticism. Perhaps the dog poop spreading was part of a sacred ritual known only to those elected to the village church? Who am I, mere citizen, to question it?

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 5:44 PM

Yep Bill, I think they are losing it. Do you remember the poop gate story, FoC seems to have the scoop on it, how could the Review miss it, did the Post pick it up.:O))) Ahhh, Spellcheck, have I upset you, gee, I sorry

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 4:43 PM

More Sad-casm from Dreary Dryer. Is Jerry with a "J" ghost "producing" your material or just collecting what's available in the dog park? Perhaps you've been scooping up the poop "someone" left in the gutter across the street? Remember "dog-poop-gate" (The Auteur has video!). It should be interesting to hear Harris' proposals for keeping the VOX membership happy as Mayor:guardgate, poopgate, the Altenheim/OPRFHS scandal! And Dryer, legal scholar, demands bedtime stories&anarchy! What a joke.

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 3:57 PM

Repent, Jerry, and turn your life over to Tony! He will heal your misspellings!

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 3:54 PM

If Chris Harris is ordained the next mayor of Forest Park, FanDannyboy of CarlKarl, I expect all among us to respect the sacred higher authority of which Steward not Tutor speaks, and honor the infallible authority that Harris will then embody. All that will remain for us to do is to stand silent as we await his edicts the next four years. Steward not Tutor counsels that such is the will of God for Forest Park, as written in the Book of Amy and the testaments of Thomas M. and Mark H.

Spellcheck Too  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 2:47 PM

I meant "Spellcheck Two". Sorry "Spellcheck";) As for "Speaking of..." and today's fake political corruption "news", aren't you the Constitutional scholar who espouses representative democracy as doing whatever every Crazy Tom, Dick, Sharon and Fair is Fair want? Because that is the platform of Harris supporters: the Mayor should do whatever everyone and anyone wants. And every block gets to decide on their own traffic controls. Or maybe just the voter intimidating block bully? Or Gerry.

Spellcheck  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 2:22 PM

God Jerry you even misspell "miss spell"?? While complaining about misspelling!? ARGH!! Your blathering drivel is stupid enough, having to look at it on the page is excruciating. Sorry about how wounded you are about your name being spelled wrong but the rest of us have to tolerate your incredibly poor grammar and mangling of language constantly. To say nothing of your stunningly stupid "contributions". Pleeeaaassseee Gerry shut up for one single day! You are absolutely unbearable!

Spellcheck  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 2:04 PM

Stop it! ( i'm) not I. STUPID!

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 1:53 PM

Bill, I think we have upset Fan Of Carl, he is repeatting AND ranting, either that or he really likes to see his comments in print, or both. I guess the miss spelling of my name is suppose to have some effect, oh, I am wounded. I glad this article about the Altenheim was not about something real important FoC would really be frothing at the mouth.

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 1:42 PM

Bill Dwyer & Sharon Daly have been raging on about the Comp Plan without even reading it. Now Bill is crying that the Mayor should have read it out loud to them & Jean Lotus before she wrote this non news gossip. All this jibberish from Bill? He's telling us Harris will do whatever Dan & his clique demand, otherwise no coverage in the paper that isn't negative! That Harris will take orders from Sharon! Jerry! And Bill! Bill calls that democracy. Harris is a puppet candidate for corrupt thugs.

Speaking of McGaffer  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 1:10 PM

Has anyone noticed that McGaffer is not only a bar but a parking lot for semi truck cabs? Is this allowed because he contributes to the mayoral PAC and therefore all police look the other way? As police feel it is their domain to come onto personal property to issue tickets, why not onto McGaffer property?

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 12:51 PM

FannyManDan in KarlCarl, you seem upset. I implore you to rest your raging and weary little mind in the peace and calm of of the Everlasting and Apparently Also Eternal Tony. For it is in Anthony that resides all good within Forest Park. It is he who calms all storms here, if not the resultant flooding, and eases all minds, especially such a tiny and troubled brain as yours. Go, dwell on the words of The Apostle Amy, or ask someone to read them to you, and trust your well being to the great and Everlasting PAC of McGaffers.

Fan of Carl   

Posted: January 20th, 2015 12:31 PM

Bill you claimed as " POINT OF LAW" no less that Altenheim residents must not be considered here. You are a FILTHY LIAR.you and Sharon our Land Use Expert NEVER READ THE COMP PLAN!?!?! Now you're whimpering like a baby that Calderone should have read it TO YOU! And Jean Lotus? She didn't even look at the section on Altenheim for her big expose here? This is poor biased journalism and moronic "citizenry" trying to take over FP with Chris Harris as Puppet Mayor! How do you like THAT voters?

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 12:02 PM

OMG! Forgot to mention.. the latest issue of the Book of Amy (Amy: The Cat Issue) is coming! Wherein the Word Of Anthony is offered to the world. I so impatiently await this blessing from Tony's apostle. I have found it is the only way to counter the vile untruths emanating from the ruthless monopoly of the Dark Lord from Oak Park, whose name I dare not utter. Even now, his malignant eye is fixed on Forest Park. If I look away even for a moment from the Teachings of Amy and the Way of Tony, I am lost to the roiling emptiness of Dooperdom.

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 11:45 AM

I understand your chagrin, FanManDan of CarlKarl. But we pious followers of 'steward not tutor's' Church of Forest Park are not perfect, just forgiven. Father Mannix has laid his hand on my poor sinner's head and absolved me of all my trespasses, including all ridiculous and unethical stuff. And since he assured me that he's better at the absolving thing than he is at the political consulting thing, I am greatly comforted. Now I'm off to the dog park to seek Jerry and implore him to repent and to improve his spelling. To you, ManFannyDan on CarlKarl, I say go forth in Tony's peace, and spread the sacred word of Calderone's Kingdom.

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 11:27 AM

Bill you need to apologize to the poster who hinted ten times about Altenheim residents and left laughing at YOU when you piped up as FAUX legal council for all claiming what they wanted has no bearing " point of LAW" you ridiculously said. What "law" might that be? You and Sharon are literally nuts! Everything you say is ridiculous and highly unethical. You have no credibility with anyone. Jerry just wants to land one zinger in this lifetime. Keep pitching Gerry statistics support your quest!

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 11:24 AM

I no longer have any criticisms of His Ho... um, the mayor, FanDanofCarlKarl. I have embraced 'steward not tutor's' sacred teachings and have taken them into my heart. So I now fear excommunication far too much to continue blaspheming against the Holy See, or, as they refer to it in Forest Park, the Holy C. Can't post any more right now, as I'm getting ready to head over to village hall to have my sins forgiven by Father Hosty or Father Mannix. Btw, have you seen Brother Gillian's new vestments? He looks simply radiant swinging that incense cage. Quick question for steward not tutor: Is it true they're planning to conduct village council meetings in Latin? Ya know, while no one will be able to understand what's going on, at least it all will be beautiful and mysterious, as opposed to just mysterious.

Dan of Carl   

Posted: January 20th, 2015 11:10 AM

I was the first to say the article used euphemisms for offer which Sharon turned into offer and whipped her fake friends up about. I don't lie. Bill and Gerry do nothing but lie.as for Bill he got THREATENING and I said he was macho. If he considers macho gay I am not surprised and no one cares maybe Gerry" Bill you've gone off the deep end with Sharon as though this non event is the biggest thing ever. Is this the ENTIRE case against Calderone? Where's the beef Billy?

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 10:48 AM

Oh, and I have an apology to make to 'steward not tutor.' You're right, Tony Calderone does have a 'sacred duty (as) an elected official to follow (h)is own heart and block out the noise of the complaining constituents." In line with that, I propose FoPa lobby diligently for a change in state election law substitute polling places with a single large hall where all registered voters will gather, the doors will be closed, and we won't emerge until e have selected a mayor. This of course will require the construction of a tall chimney from which white smoke will rise to signal the new mayor. Along with those changes I propose that whenever the mayor so selected speaks in sacred terms regarding official village business, there be no mere ordinance passed, but instead a Papal Bull be published. Fortunately, few people are better suited to deliver bull than our current mayor, so I say he's pretty much a lock for the job. He may always be inarticulate and often incomprehensible, but at least now he'll be infallible.

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 10:36 AM

Btw and fyi, over in Oak Park, where, unlike in Proviso, the vast majority of people are blessed with at least functional reading comprehension and reasoning skill, Friar Tuck from Oak Park posts an interesting fact: .. .. "Per Forest Park Comprehensive Plan, sports fields a no go: (and he quotes from the CP) 'As part of this purchase, an agreement was signed to indicate that future development on the property would be limited to eight acres of residential dwelling units or uses permitted under...the Zoning Ordinance. The uses MUST NOT INTERFERE (emphasis mine) with 'the reasonable, quiet enjoyment by the residents of the A and B Buildings...and of the surrounding property retained by the Altenheim.' F. Tuck goes on to note that "The existing buildings also may be used for governmental, office businesses." Tony Calderone could have mentioned that as well, but since he doesn't have to explain himself, in some people's opinion, but once every four years, I guess we should just be grateful he deigned to send an explanation of sorts in a text message.

Spellcheck  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 10:06 AM

Jerry your posts are killing me, you probably should stop throwing the stupid comment around. Slow down and check what you type before you post!

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 10:00 AM

Ohhhhh, Lawdy... Proviso type's borderline IQs can be such fun to observe, as they struggle with basic logic and ABC reasoning.. .. .. For the benefit of anyone of average or above intellect reading this, notice that Lotus heads and subheads her article with: 'Forest Park mayor: Not selling Altenheim to OPRFHS' and than 'Informal proposal for high school baseball, softball, tennis ruled out'.. .. She couldn't be any clearer or more accurate, quoting Calderone himself in the body copy saying, '"OPRF is interested in buying property. The Altenheim property is not for sale. "But that won't stop a moron like Dan of/Fan of Carl/Karl from spewing 'This article is dishonest and intentionally misleading.' Then, of course, suggesting, apparently, that I'm homosexual because, well, it's easier than actually making a coherent point. And I'M the name caller? As for the other iteration of Dan of/Fan of Carl/Karl, oh what a tangled web you weave when you're a pathetic liar, huh, dude? You don't know Jerry, but somehow you know enough to tie him to the neighborhood around the dog park. How sad. Too stupid to even lie well. And yet you're a liar. Must be uncomfortable for you.

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 9:12 AM

Well Fan, you have prove again what I and Bill have known all a long, that you are a liar. You used offer to try and discredit the article and Jean. And if you don't know who I am why would you mention the dog park? Good Morning!

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 20th, 2015 1:21 AM

Gerry I am aware the article does not use the word "offer". I personally said that repeatedly in this thread esp. To Sharon when her fever was spiking. So ... I have no idea why you have chosen to tell me what I clearly already know. I have no idea who you are. Good night.

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 10:48 PM

Almost forgot @Fan, since you are so accurate on every thing could you point out where in the article where it says a OFFER WAS MADE, I just could not find it. Guess I need to sharpen the old web skills.

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 10:42 PM

Hey Fan, didn't it use to be Fan of Karl? Anyway, you say I post anonymously yet you know who I am, not real anonymous is it?

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 10:36 PM

When you lived in Forest Park Obs? Have you left, I still smell the manure I shoveled on you.

Dan of Carl  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 9:41 PM

This article is dishonest and intentionally misleading. There was NO OFFER. Mr Cronin went without authorization behind his committee and OPRFHS to the mayor with an idea he describes which sounds rather bizarre frankly. Calderone has respected the man's dignity The Review has not. Calderone never said he ruled out anything there was nothing to rule out. Read his words! So Dwyer, you "Macho Macho Man" were you the cowboy or the plumber in The Village People? Can you still do the little dance?

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 9:07 PM

blah blah blah Fan. I'm a bully, huh? If that's your take on mere words on a website, you're a timid little wuss. Keep watching, Fan. More details coming, and all you'll be able to do, apparently, is whine like the little anonymous apologist troll you are. Whatever happened to the Home of the Brave? You ain't it, for sure.

Fan of Carl   

Posted: January 19th, 2015 8:55 PM

Dwyer it's the world you created where people are running in fear of "the Truth" like a parody of End Times. You keep threatening "the Truth" is about to be revealed that will singe our bangs but it's all sizzle, no steak, Bully. Just more of that letdown feeling so many experience with you -- you know, that "Where's the beef" reaction?To conclude, this article is misleading junk there was NO OFFER made or ruled out and the trick of printing the mayors words then ignoring them is a cheap one?

Observer  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 8:54 PM

When I lived in FP my landscaper was named Jerry...is that you Jerry? if so how are you old friend? No Bill not Manscape.. landscape ;)

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 8:05 PM

Yowza. Folks "crouched in defensive postures hissing and spitting" and others foaming at the mouth. That's quite a world you got going on in your addled head, F of C. Is it painful?

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 7:51 PM

Jerry "banning " from a website is pure urban legend. It doesn't exist. Obs has a magic cape others use Starbucks or lay on the sofa and text from their phones if the weather's bad. "Banning"? All smoke and mirrors like so many things one can read. Those capes from North Korea are knockoffs but serviceable. Why do you post anonymously? Afraid Foaming At The Mouth Dwyer will track you down after dark in the dog park? I sure am. Good luck to you.

Fan of Carl   

Posted: January 19th, 2015 7:43 PM

Sorry autocorrect -I meant Fan. And Jerry you need the practice using the web yourself. Go to D91 website and read minutes from board meetings and "new"ly invented advisory board minutes. I believe November or check Oct. contract signed with Review for one grand a month tax payer dollars for flattering articles in the paper. $7000 for now $10,000 for next school year. Dwyer claims people are "running from the truth" I would say so far they are crouched in defensive postures hissing and spitting

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 6:50 PM

Ahhh... Obstrudy and Obstrudy Observer: the 'Igno' converses with the 'ramus.' Together they comprise an ever so complimentary whole.

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 6:33 PM

Well good lord Fan of Carl why don't you post a link if it's there. I doubt if Dan really cares.

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 6:30 PM

Sorry Obs, I remembered something and I don't think a magic carpert or N. Korea had anything to do with it. Maybe you can get help with your blog from the Truth Squad, it's your style isn't it.

Observer  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 5:49 PM

@ Obs Obs aww Thank you...Happy to be building a fan base as I prepare to launch an interactive blog to coincide with the upcoming election. I need to hire an Admin person, the only two out-of-work experienced Admin people I know of, are Flunky & Piehead, I guess they will have to duke it out ;) @ Jerry I use a magic cape, purchased from a web site...I think based in North Korea...allows me access to everything on the Internet ;)

Observer's observer   

Posted: January 19th, 2015 5:07 PM

Obs: I'm the real Obs Obs not the "troll" who borrowed it earlier with the lame comment "why don't you go away blah blah" anyway you and Carl are my favorite posters -- brilliant! And always confuse Jer added bonus. You're incredibly witty, ethical and knowledgable. When we all have to get our Facebook verified "simon jester" nyms I hope you get "Observer". Maybe sign up now to reserve it? It's such a perfect nym for you. I got mine as did a few others to be ready! Love your work dude!

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 4:38 PM

Good Lord Jerry you have serious comprehension problems. This has been written up in the Review in their sneaky deceptive way also clearly stated in D91 board minutes and the D91 volunteer committee minutes. Approved expenditure one grand a month to the review for vanity articles. $7000 for remaining school year twelve grand option for next year. Your tax dollars at work. Dan isn't going to like you stirring this pot. We love it though so rock on!!

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 4:38 PM

Obs, banned and you still have access, how does that work.

Observer  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 4:28 PM

@ Jerry yep I was banned by the Watcher, you see free speech had limits there & the heavy handed censorship miser didn't like a bigger fish in the pond ;) It's a museum now, the relics are still there for all to see...The good, the bad & the dark underbelly ;)

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 4:18 PM

Fan, where is your proof that dist 91 is paying the Review for good stories, besides whats in your fevered and intoxicaded mind(a term I use loosely)

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 4:13 PM

Hey Bill, look, Brian has a PHD(Piled Higher and Deeper) and an AB(All BS), wow, I am impressed aren't you? Hey @Obs, didn't you say you were kicked off the forums, forgetting your lies? @Carl, yep Bill hid for years and when he didn't have to he stopped, idiot.

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 4:12 PM

Oh Carl don't be naive ... Remember "Gina" who put up the gooey lovey dicey post "hey Bill ......I saw you last night at 209T and you were Sooo smart and manly ( and so on and on) but I didn't introduce myself" BILL POSTED that! Gina is one of his nyms! For real!! He's Mr Hypocritical Lying Ass" only Jerry believes what he thinks Bill might be saying. Even VOX can't stand him and they need members besides Jer and MsMeltdown. Sharon knows there are insiders just not who they are;) Bill ain't one.

Brian Edgar Smith, PhD, JD, AB  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 3:56 PM

Yes Dwyer you lying two bit loser. Your going to be called names until you stop. People don't want to stoop to your gutter level so you go but I'm sick of it and my vocabulary is as large as yours. Brian Kuhr accused a poster using her real name of stalking his kid! And you're looking for a brawl all the time -- it's DANGEROUS to give out your identity on line it's creepy that you want to know so bad actually.see U cleaned up your blue line article mess or did Romain help u out?pathetic dope!

Observer  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 3:30 PM

I must say, the one guy who consistently muzzled Bill was FoPa Watcher & he did it deftly: Here is a great clip (Posted: 30/July/2014 at 9:02pm) you must scroll down ..enjoy: http://forestparkforums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4885&title=troll-scat-on-the-fp-review-website

Carl  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 3:02 PM

Bill Dwyer has some fixation on always wanting to know a posters name. Well Billy I am using mine less my last name, why, because it's none of your business I am free to post here just like you and readers don't forget that for a very long time Billy hid behind the shadows of numerous fake names. He came out of the closet and now all of a sudden "poof" nobody else is of his caliber. Billy you are a very troubled person who should seek help man because you really need it. Save your sarcasism.

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 2:55 PM

Didn't think you could do it, Brian. Love how you accuse me of calling vulgar names while you resort to name calling. From yet another coward too scared to use his (her?) own name. All generalities, no specifics. Typical gutless troll.

Fan of carl  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 2:30 PM

Well Jer the school board PAYING the Review a grand a month for fawning flattering "news" is a pretty big deal. Esp sin ce you just made some idiotic remark about how The Post has ads - the whole Review is paid or paid off. You should talk to Dan before you press this on the comments there's a lot going on at the Review right now all about $$$ bad mix with journalism

jerry from forest aprk  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 2:25 PM

Brian, said relevant and meant it, you are just to stupid to understand, which is normal for your kind.

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 2:21 PM

@Fan, don't you think it's a little early in the day to be this incoherent and if you have something to show, why wait. The reason is simple you have nothing and are nothing but hot air.

Brian  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 2:14 PM

Jerry you need to get tutored on the word "relevant" because it's use is inappropriate to your own context. Perhaps you meant "timely" meaning getting information faster? Relevant can be from thousands of years ago. Go look it up in a school dictionary. The OED would confuse you and if you get confused posters get banned I heard! @Bill the endless flow of insults from your orifice is no substitute for FACTS. You also claim big ballsFactual? No. See you're a pathetic maladjusted loser THATS fact!

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 2:00 PM

Oh Jerry you made a boo boo! Bringing up who is paying for what at this "newspaper"? That is a mighty touchy subject! Example D91 PAYS a thousand bucks a month! To Danny boy for flattering "content" in this "newspaper" there is SOOO much more dirt on the money side than that too. I'll show you as things unfold... Check with DD before talking $$ here tho word to the wise since you're... You know...

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 1:42 PM

Hey Brian. Do us all a favor. Cut and paste just, say, five of my "FILTHY mouth... pathological" posts and post them here, with the topic being comment on. Other wise, shut up. I post facts and context, sport. The next time the trolls posting here do that will be their first.

Observing observer  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 1:36 PM

Considering Observer and so many others that tear things down call the FPR a 'rag', why do they keep coming here to get news? If it is so bad, why not get your relevant information from the Post?

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 1:32 PM

@Brian, well, you proved my point, mocking and tearing down, that is all commenters like you do. @Obs, if the people of FP what relevant they should attend the VC meetings or watch them on TV. Reading about what the commissors have to say once evry 2 months is NOT relevant, like you. By the way, one is advertisements which is why it's free, the other is a newspaper which reports stories as they happen.

Brian from Forest park  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 1:08 PM

"What goes on here is mocking and tearing down... (From) the same person" quote from JerryReal Name.Its true! 90% Is Dwyer who clearly has Tourette's Syndrome. The second anyone says anything back to him Jerry removes his nose from stuck behind Bill and tears into a nasty rant"helping" Bill should be BANNED. His comments are not useful the FILTHY mouth is pathological. Jerry's comments repetitive and senseless tho he's a MEAN cur too - folks just laugh & ignore. Without them it's a good board!

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 12:31 PM

Well, gee, no Obstrudy. An animal stuck in a pile of snow versus actual people engaged in an activity? Ask someone to explain the difference to you if you're having trouble. I recall the casket races having an actual news article inside the paper. Is the FoPaPoo planning a story on kitties stuck in the snow? I doubt it. Now run off back to your imaginary J school teaching job. You just sound silly when you make your thoughts public.

Observer  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 11:37 AM

@ Billy ...I guess the same as a Review cover featuring the Halloween casket races ? silly but inspiring...no? well even a "real" newspaper the Chicago Tribune called Forest Park a vibrant town: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-11-09/entertainment/chi-kogan-sidewalks-casket-race-20121109_1_race-entrants-grateful-dead-theme-block

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 11:29 AM

Wow. A cover picture of a wide-eyed, freaked out cat stuck in a snow drift. How's that for relevance to local affairs?

Observer  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 10:30 AM

@ Jerry LNU per the Forest Park Post facebook page "A bi-monthly publication delivered to every home and business in Forest Park. You can also pick up a copy at several locations throughout Forest Park, Oak Park and River Forest." I guess "suum cuique" eh? ones a publication ones a rag ;)

Observer  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 10:12 AM

Now now..."No News Post" clever? don't want you to get your panties in a wad..Let's take an honest look here..shall we, the only thing separating the two is the Review is weekly, it has police reports, two controversial columnists in Daly & Holmes...Rice would fit right in @ the Post. They both serve up the fluff...yes they do. Now let's cut to the chase, the Post does in fact have a section where the VC has an opportunity to engage the community with relevant updates. No? eh?

jerry from forest  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 9:49 AM

@Obs, only would call the Post a newspaper, even Amy doesn't call it one. How informitive can it be, it only comes out 6 times a year, your even dumber than I thought. By the way, you seem to be the only one here who doesn't know who I am. @Jordan, if you haven't noticed what goes on here is mocking and tearing down, a lot of time the same person useing different names.

No News Post  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 9:45 AM

Yes, Observer, the Post has everything you want, provided you want nothing at all about the village you live in! There is no NEWS in the Post. Not really sure what the Post is other than a replacement for the old Advertisers papers of days of old. Something to put on the bottom of your bird cage. Tell me about all the "NEWS" in the Post Observer. It is a bi-monthly Calderone sanctioned newsletter.

Observer  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 9:14 AM

@ Jordan, I have a suggestion, there is in fact another news outlet/publication in your new town, it's called the Forest Park Post, it's a utopia compared to this, charming hometown stories that will warm your heart. It has everything you want music, book, movie even wine reviews! No negativity at all...you should check it out ;)

Jordan Kuehn from Forest Parl  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 8:51 AM

Good god this is the dumbest thing I've read since moving here.

Observer  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 8:49 AM

This is rare territory for me, however, could someone explain the difference between let's say Simon Jesters "Facebook Verified" anonymity and Jerry's anonymity? Does the Review know the identity behind the Facebook Verified person, because I sure don't? Obviously Sharon & Dwyer post in true name, Simon Jester? really?.....As Jerry Oliver Stone continues to spin his conspiracy theory, please let us know your thoughts on what nyms are being used here by the former gaggle of hens @ the FPF

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 6:22 AM

Or what, F of C? I say the "or what" is to have the guts and brains to engage in a dialogue with voters on the issue. Say what you want, but democracy is not a once every four year thing. Your philosophy is putrid and cowardly.

Fan of Karl  

Posted: January 19th, 2015 5:21 AM

Facebook verification?... Get a new acct using whatever name put no other data. Facebook does not require an email attached to the acct. you can use a phone#. When you go on the Review logged in the # won't show . It pops up "undefined" I predict Dan will demand verification as in Riverside. It's dangerous to reveal personal info on line. My friend used real name/real Facebook here and some nut accused her of stalking.Election time U must be heard! But safely! Like FoPa&Jester do.

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 7:55 PM

Dwyer Yes that is actually how it works. We Americans decided we don't want electeds kow-towing to every ridiculous shrieking demand from random voices. We want them to do their own work, make their own decisions and be responsible for them at election time. Or what? Do what crazy Sharon demands today and Dan tomorrow then the dry cleaner next week? That's the heart of political corruption and who is responsible then,Sharon?Where's your campaign against corruption NOW Hypocrite?

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 7:46 PM

Wow. The ever so dastardly Dan Haley is not just a "ruthless monopol(ist), he's also a "shadowy figure pulling the strings on government from behind the curtain." Running scared in the face of the truth coming out, aren't you, troll?

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 7:37 PM

This paper is primarily a bullhorn for Dan Haley who is trying to run FP from behind a curtain. That is not leadership or democracy. Electeds and candidates who will do his bidding are ridiculously fawned over the rest treated like this and MUCH worse. Now he's bought off Romaine's voice. The real question for voters and advertisers is do you want a shadowy figure pulling the strings on government from behind the curtain, hand groomed puppets up front? If so vote for Dan's candidates!

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 7:17 PM

"(T)he noise of the complaining constituents, who have their chance every 4 years to be heard.".. .. Boy, does that ever capture the putrid mindset of the average Proviso status quo idiot succinctly. Got that, folks? Democracy is a once every 4-year thing, and then everyone should just shut up and wait for the sacred edicts to roll down from on high. What's next? The Divine Right of Kings? Thanks, "steward." You may be an shallow idiot, but at least you're an honest idiot.

steward not tutor  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 6:58 PM

"Demand more from your paper readers!" Yes! When you criticize the mayor you are not understanding the sacred duty he has an elected official to follow is own heart and block out the noise of the complaining constituents, who have their chance every 4 years to be heard. Criticizing the local paper on the other hand, is good citizenship because we don't elect the editors or owners. Since they operate a ruthless monopoly in the local newspaper industry sector, we have no choice but to complain.

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 6:40 PM

Don't know what's more amazing, Who's kissing... the level of your assumptions or the depths of your ignorance. The idea that I pander in anyway to Dan, much as i respect him, just shows you're clueless about what goes on. As for Michael Romain getting hired rather than me, that's due to two simple reasons: he's a dedicated and outstanding journalist they're lucky to have, and I have absolutely no interest in a full-time newspaper job. But indulge your fantasies, goof. They seem important to you.

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 6:21 PM

Bill, don't let the trolls get to you. I mean, they have been telling us since Jean has been editor how lousey she is, and now one of them is saying she is a genius at creating illusions. To me it says she is pretty darn good if she can do that. I have to wonder how many of these commenters are the same person. They are the only juckyard dogs here, nothing but attack and demean.

Who's kissing who here?  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 5:25 PM

"Mantime" Dwyer: This isn't about YOU or your vulgar, infantile obsession with your ass, your balls and other men's genitals! It's about this article this paper & this subject at hand. Bizarre that you & Sharon, desperate attention seeking loons, come on here and have psycho meltdowns as distractions to please Dan who "seems" happy to use you as "comment section junk yard dogs" yet blatantly overlooks you for real work? U kiss Dan's ass for an average of a quarter a day & he hires Romaine not U?

Carl  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 4:42 PM

Oh Bill stop with your crazy nonesence. We know you have allegiance to the FPR, we get it. Doesn't change the fact the FPR is average at best. You can blast your mouth all you want. It means nothing other then the blowhard you are. Keep spewing we get a kick out of it.

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 4:01 PM

And Carl, really, stop talking out of your own nether regions. The awards the FPR has received are given out by judges from an out of state newspaper association. If you knew anywhere as much as you pretendto know about newspapers, you'd know most journalism awards are NOMINATED by the journalist's newspaper. That doesn't mean they win. Jean Lotus, whether you care to acknowledge it or not, won the top journalism award in Chicago last year, one which was judged by a panel of journalists from three other states, none of whom knew her. I guess you're just not up to criticizing people without relying on imaginary facts.

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 3:54 PM

How 'bout you kiss my butt, Fan of Carl?

Carl  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 3:52 PM

The FPR is certainly regarded as a news paper but besides the almost self chosen awards they receive each year that in of itself does not make it a good newspaper. They could be and should be a better paper but that would require a paradigm shift on the part of Dan Haley which is something he has shown for many years now that he is not interested in doing. Frankly he is a true Oak Parker and jeoulous of Forest Park and will never admit it. No need for him to do so he exhibits it well in print.

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 3:43 PM

Tricky worded political gossip is not good reporting Dwyer you know better just kissing butt par for course. Take the first sentence -- two statements connected by "and"? Gives the illusion of saying something but says nonsense: this is Lotus' genius: creating illusion. Being misleading. Can people even read anymore? And Dan just bought Romaine for election season so we have no options as readers and voters now. Demand more from your paper readers! Demand respect and objectivity!

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 1:08 PM

Gosh, Obstrudy- auto spell check done got me again. Should have read "But here's a tip for you in the meantime." Sorry you were confused.

Observer  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 11:35 AM

@ Billy..not sure what your "mantime" comment has to do with this? not judging though ;) I guess I will pay for & pen a few political attack ads at the Post, then in your eyes it will be a bona-fide paper?? Ya know because I'm not a writer...I'm a paid apologist ;)

Simon Jester  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 11:31 AM

"A troll is a special class of sociopath. Remember that the only purpose of a troll is to antagonize and cause trouble. There is no point in trying to reason with a troll. Generally, they are not educated in debate or rhetorical skills. All they want to do is hurl slurs and incriminations. They want to make you angry, upset, confused, and exasperated. IGNORE THE TROLL. Just refuse to interact with him. Respond to others in an on-line discussion, but shun the troll and give no reply to any of his accusations or remarks." Written by Steve Streight

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 11:22 AM

I'll consider take writing tips from you when the FoPa Post becomes a real newspaper, Obstrudy. But here's a tip for you in the mantime- real writers use their real name, troll.

Observer  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 11:02 AM

@ Billy..you have clearly filled the void left by Flunky's sabbatical...I taught him how it's possible to be clear & succinct..There is no need to bombard the reader with your droning words. Please tighten up your script ;)

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 10:40 AM

And excellent reporting by Jean Lotus, despite the contention of some fools that there was no story here. In the stunted minds of some people, the only real news stories are those where there's some big, splashy development. But as any real reporter knows, and as serious newspaper reader realizes, it's all the small developments and facts that often go on behind the scenes that end up mattering. A guy with a documented background in development and a connection to OPRF high school approached the mayor. They had a preliminary discussion. The mayor declined to take it any further. Fair enough. But the fact that that happened is news. And Sharon's comments were fair and reasonable. Btw, while I'm at it, the residents at Altenheim have nothing to say about any sale of property owned by the village. I don't say that meanly or dismissively, just as a point of law. Taxpayers, on the other hand, are footing the bill for that property.

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 10:11 AM

Actually Dwyer did some research on Google and was sitting in the audience at RF village hall reporting for a newspaper on the Hines location proposal.. .. .. Hang in there Sharon. The trolls don't whimper and whine like they're doing now unless you're getting under their thin scalely skins.

Observer  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 9:23 AM

I would like to take a moment & thank the Review for allowing biased writers like Sharon to be challenged here. Great to see so many people finally taking a stand against the unrelenting Daly gang! Writers should write objectively and inclusively to receive respect and trust from readers, as well as to avoid alienating readers. To be objective means to write with curiosity, rather than having a preset opinion, and to engage with research, rather than presenting a personal preference ;)

steward not tutor  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 8:34 AM

@LOL -- "ask the residents of the ALTENHEIM how they feel about the property THEY live on." LOL are you SAYING the property under discussion is actually occupied by the residents of the ALTENHEIM? So back then was the village so close to selling this property out from under THEM to the YMCA?

Oh hold on here!  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 1:46 AM

Sharon's now claiming it wasn't HER bitching anti Calderone? Actually it was *o n l y* you Sharon carrying on demanding full reports about nothing and that he had "An offer" Lies.. Over and over Sharon you tried to whip up controversy about Calderone. It was ridiculous I agree but it was *a l l* you and no one else after the school contingent wore out. You never stop lying and being over the top cruel. Trouble is when you act crazy all the time no ones going to take you seriously.? Like now??

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 18th, 2015 12:56 AM

Sharon no one claimed to be an insider! You haven't been excluded. Dwyer did fantastic research probably off google. Carl read a current article from Wed Journal. Not very exotic or insider. You lie when you claim anyone spoke for Calderone.as for who said "anti Calderone" that was you; likewise taking the trip down the yellow brick from Altenheim to high school. You are the calling yourself "dumbass" projecting Sharon as "other". Sad flameout well deserved after all you've done&lying endlessly.

LOL  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 11:01 PM

Sharon, I never called anyone an imposter.... RE-READ my post -I just asked if you had asked the Altenheim residents about your mission. Quick dancing and start answering questions....

LOL  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 10:40 PM

Waiting for Sharon..... what do the RESIDENTS of ALTENHEIM think about it?

Observer  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 10:30 PM

.....psst. Sharon..Steve, Gloria, Jerry, Bill (sometimes) don't give their last names..you know it gal..who knows about FoPa flunky? he seems to have taken a lower profile, ya never know when nyms troll here.. ;) You also know Chris isn't the answer to your problem...right? ...Sharon ....like your work? ;)

LOL  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 10:24 PM

Really Sharon, is that all you have? How about answering the question about the ALTENHEIM RESIDENTS? When you are done bashing me,,,, answer the question....THANK YOU

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 10:10 PM

two thoughts, LOL: 1) if there are only 4-5 residents in the village who disagree w/y'all...perhaps you have better things to do w/your time? 2) and you may have noticed this yourself - the folks you call out as imposters and malcontents attach their names to their writing. Projection, how does it work?

LOL  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 8:56 PM

You can sure tell there is an election coming up. Here we have our regular four or five people posting, not running for office but just sitting behind their computer telling us how it should be. ANYONE READING THIS SHOULD KNOW these same people will never be happy. Now we are harping on the ALTENHEIM, I wonder if Jerry, Sharon or Bill have ever asked the residents of the ALTENHEIM how they feel about the property THEY live on......just wondering.... Do the residents of the Grove want it? ASK!

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 8:54 PM

to all you anonymous self-identifying 'insiders': i'm sure you'll excuse the rest of us for not buying your super-duper insights as to what Calderone thinks, how we should think, and your warped view of representative govt (and i'll bet you all the interest payments on the Altenheim loan that you don't apply that same 'rule' to every elected official.) Neither the story nor one comment was anti-Calderone - you guys made it a 'controversy.' dumbasses.

Friend of Carl  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 8:42 PM

Sharon THERE WAS NO OFFER FROM OPRFHS for the Mayor to "explain" Even the paper was really careful to use the word "prospect" which is not even "proposal". Mr Cronin stated clearly he had his own idea and approached the Mayor with no authorization from OPRFHS. It appears from accounts of both present to have been a courtesy meeting with someone known to Calderone. An observation of business etiquette which Cronin praised. Gossiping is your job, not the Mayor's. Why embarrass yourself further?

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 8:20 PM

So much stupidity, so little space. The many morons who have responded have read more into this article than was written, typical distracter comments. The last I heard the elected are accountable to those who eclect them. Obs, you who hide would not know the true if it bit you in the butt. Carl, if your cooments reflect your knowledge, you don't know any thing, the Altenhiem was never for sale, right.

steward not tutor  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 7:12 PM

Exactly. Because an elected official, having obtained the consent of the governed, shouldn't need or be expected to explain his thinking, motivations, or actions on the behalf of the electorate. The People elected them. Now their job, no, their sworn duty is to exercise their good judgement on behalf of the State, period. The best way they can do that is when they are free of the distractions of whining constituents, otherwise known as "complainers."

Observer  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 7:05 PM

@ Sharon...all is well, thanks for asking..Happy New Year...on that note, why don't we try and do what's right this year..go back to the days when you looked upon the Mayor & FP and smiled, before you were radicalized by Steve & Gloria AKA the bland & very boring nyms of late ;) You had it together once, I know you have it in ya to get your groove back ! Now Billy..not so sure, I just think he's wired wrong...your other pal Jerry = sheep. Sharon rise above these mutts..seriously u can do better

Look under the rug  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 6:59 PM

@Sharon the Review did know all these facts and chose to intentionally leave them out of the story and to turn all Cronin's defenses of his own questionable behavior against the mayor, and in effect sided with a bunch of drivel like "there's No Reason" not to do what he proposes --even though it sounds like the worst idea in the history of ideas for FP and the best for OP! So ask Editor and journalist where the facts went or look under the rug?

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 6:50 PM

indeed, i wrote that Calderone has certain gifts as Commissioner of Public Affairs. if, as you say, he considers financial modeling for proposed Altenheim uses as 'babysitting' the citizenry, and explaining the differences between an offer from OPRF vs Fenwick as too tedious for words - well, we'll all have to reconsider.

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 6:40 PM

@sharon this thing here is no news story unless Hong Kong not buying Altenheim is news. And the freestanding writers conclusion paragraph unrelated to the story is the latest fad at FPR? As for you suggesting Calderone should write a biography on every Tom and Dick on earth and all their private thoughts, aspirations & motivations: why don't you submit the list of subjects for these exposes to the Mayor and when written and submitted Fair is Fair can grade them?

Friend of FP  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 4:51 PM

Dwyer good reporting this time! Of course Calderone knows the difference between charity and other land uses with benefits to the community -- public use or development bringing tax income &/or sheen. . It's basic general knowledge stakeholders certainly consider before shooting their mouths off opining and whining? Calderone is steward of FP not FP Econ tutor-at-large or babysitter for land use expert Sharon who, by the way, insisted in the Review she be "FIRST!" to support his reelection. True

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 4:39 PM

@ Carl. why are saying this is an anti-Calderone piece? it is a news story that has stirred longings for a proper high school and long overdue clarity for the Altenheim. maybe Calderone could have written a longer text message, explaining all the details you are now offering as the real deal?

Carl  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 3:45 PM

Part 2 This is a classic case of sub standard journalism. Make a story out of something there was no story about. But one must keep in mind that it is election year in Forest Park and the Review does not like Mayor Calderone. Anything and anyway they can cause controversy they will, and this story is only the beginning. Stay tuned Jerry, Sharon and Billy will be full steam ahead. Just watch.

Carl  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 3:41 PM

So a couple of days prior to Jean releasing this story the cozy companion paper WJ wrote a story about OPRF building a new swimming pool on some current school property. The school board decides not to move forward with the plan unless they find replacement property. Sadly they are siting around the table and the Altenhiem property is mentioned. Strangely they are leaping not only outside the western border of their own town but also to the west extremity of Forest Park. (1 of 2)

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 2:38 PM

Please actually read Dwyer's post about Cronin and his very personal interests. Then consider he had no authority from OPRFHS to offer anyone anything. It looks like they didn't even know he contacted the mayor from all the apologizing and dissembling. Like I said he's blowing smoke. This article is intentionally misleading complete with Jean saying "it SEEMED" like blah blah happened when it did not. She ignores all the info in her own article & makes an intentionally fallacious conclusion.

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 2:07 PM

@ Observer. hi, how are you, happy new year. uh, it was said privately...to me. are you saying the Altenheim should not have had a detailed discussion accompanied w/detailed scenarios during the 2 year CP (land use) process? if so, it's not my credibility that should be questioned.

Observer  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 1:38 PM

@ Sharon you have no "clarity" because you suffer from tunnel vision with respect to anything the electeds do or don't do (doesn't matter right? in your eyes all bad). How do you "know" what is said privately? Hate to put it out there, your credibility is diminishing as quickly as poor Billy...drifting toward Jerry territory...sharpen up! What is done with that land will be done in the best interest of the residents & done with fiscal responsibility.

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 1:26 PM

@ Carl. i will admit to feeling completely in the dark re: The Altenheim and our electeds intentions for it. Even on the heels of a new Comp Plan, in which The Altenheim should have had top billing (as opposed to none) in our Land Use discussions, and so i have no clarity. village hall says, privately, that we cannot afford what the residents want but have never presented that case, or any other. perhaps you can explain it so i'll finally understand.

jerry from forest park  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 11:08 AM

@Carl, the only dunce here is you, this property was up for sale to the YMCA up to the point they could not raise the money to buy it. This went on for years, went to Planning and the ZBA, they were given a really good deal on the land also. My feeling is down the road they will try and sell it to a developer since that is now part of the plan. Not for sale, your the dunce.

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 10:46 AM

One man's crazy is another man's uncomfortable truth, Obstrudy.

Observer  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 10:08 AM

@ Bill..It's nice to see you "leave out the crazy" because when you do, you're a pretty good reporter..MATC is not only astute, he surrounds himself with smart people ;)

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 9:18 AM

"Elephant in the Room" posted on the Wed. Journal board: .. .. .. January 17th, 2015 8:47 AM Calderone figured it out back when Fenwick wanted to buy the land: sell to a tax exempt entity you get no tax revenue. Sadly, the OP village board hasn't figured that out.. .. .. Now that's a thought to mull over. If that's Calderone's thinking then I say he's pretty astute. But Tony, Machiavellian type that he is, never feels he has to share his thinking with the electorate, so we may never know.

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 8:47 AM

The Tom Cronin listed in this story may be a different Tom Cronin, but River Forest resident and attorney Tom Cronin appeared before the River Forest village board in June, 2013 to present a proposal for a privately owned, multi-sport athletic practice center on the site of the old Hines lumberyard, directly across the street from the Altenheim. It fell through despite a $1.4 million contract to purchase the land. Cronin's family also owns the Good Earth Greenhouse, also directly across Madison St. from the Altenheim front. And, if this is the same Cronin, who is the RF Township Republican Committeeman, brother of DuPage County Board Chairman Dan Cronin and a major Bruce Rauner supporter, he would be the same Tom Cronin who runs Prairie Wellness Fund, Ltd., a fund that intends to provide financing for medical marijuana cultivators and dispensaries. He created the fund last year with Democratic political consultant Steve Denari, who serves on the Board of Directors of Democrats and Independents for Rauner SuperPac.

Bill Dwyer from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 8:19 AM

The village- that is, Calderone- negotiated fruitlessly with the YMCA for many months, over a year, Carl. Why is Sharon a "dunce" merely for asking what's changed now, and what the other commissioners think? Perhaps because you don't have the brains to argue her point without name calling?

private school graduate from forest park   

Posted: January 17th, 2015 6:48 AM

Why wouldn't you want a nice facility? Those buildings are an eye sore. And when is everyone going to face reality and realize that this town needs a hs, proviso east sucks and pmsa was a waste of time and money. Or maybe maywood should get their own hs. Maybe one day it could be oprffp hs.

jennifer wolfe from Forest Park  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 6:05 AM

I am so very happy to hear that! Our mayor knows that our residents want more green space for the residents of Forest Park. We do not need any more sports facilities here we need Green space-some of the best events happen on those grounds during picnics, concerts and ribfest! The potential of that land is going to happen all because of the vision of our leaders! Keep it green!

Fan of Carl  

Posted: January 17th, 2015 12:54 AM

Folks READ Cronen's own words: sounds like he wants taxing bodies across several towns(?) to share the property claiming, FP needs another park? Well thanks we already own that land! What other school district? A three way with Dwyer's nemesis Proviso Township?Calderone is right- nothing to discuss. Next! This guy Cronin's blowing smoke. Just so The Review can yell fire. Another (election season) false alarm. Excitement's over, people -- everyone back inside . . . .

Nancy Puckett  

Posted: January 16th, 2015 11:40 PM

I don't think Illinois would allow FP to belong to two school districts and pay taxes to both?And taking all the FP students forever even for a free baseball field doesn't seem like it would be a good deal for OPRF. It's probably 7 grand a student per year so multiply that by all the high school students in FP, times forever and that's an expensive baseball field for OPRF. I agree with you & the mayor it would be optimal if FP ultimately benefits from the land use rather than another village.

Carl  

Posted: January 16th, 2015 10:38 PM

@ Sharon, are you really a dunce or a dud. Read the history that you yourself refer to when it's appropriate. More importantly read the stories in the same paper that pays you to write your nonsense periodically. At no time has the council placed this property up for sale, they indeed responded to a serious offer from the YMCA. Heck even your golden boy harris would bend over backwards and give this land to Jennifer Wolfe for free. What craziness. And what's crazier yet is you.

Jenni Edsell from Forest Patk  

Posted: January 16th, 2015 10:19 PM

I'm jot suggesting that the D209 agreements he changed. Just give parents another option by working with OPRF to allow FP students to attend. It's no different than the PSMA option or for private schools. I would like to know for what and why the land is being saved.

Kathy Puckett  

Posted: January 16th, 2015 9:33 PM

Friends I hate to say this but the idea that FP can just cut ties to D209 because it feels like it is sort of a "no brainer" Upwards of a hundred grand has been spent exploring all avenues of FP doing so and all legal experts agree it's not an option. Search The Review for plenty of articles or ask D91 board. They recently looked into it again. Don't blame Calderone he's done due diligence on this and he has no authority/autonomy to remove FP from D209, unfortunately.

Leisa Marthaler from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 16th, 2015 9:10 PM

Former forest Parker who needed the OPRF high school. Why not look into a possible GPA/attendance for sale of property? Then people who like forest park don't have to move to oak park.

Leisa Marthaler from Oak Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 16th, 2015 8:53 PM

property for high school

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: January 16th, 2015 8:49 PM

Why aren't we exploring this offer? Why the sudden about face about some type of sale? What do the four other commissioners think?

Mary Ann Barger from Forest park  

Posted: January 16th, 2015 8:30 PM

No brainer, make a deal for our student to go there!

Cheri Seley from Forest Park  

Posted: January 16th, 2015 8:15 PM

That would be something that should be considered. One of the things this village needs to stay marketable is a good high school. I moved here 14 years ago and hoped it would happen. It didn't happen. I paid for private high school. Make a deal with OPRF - it's good for the village.

jennivEdsell from forest park  

Posted: January 16th, 2015 6:25 PM

Perhaps the Mayor could give them a deal on the land in exchange for OPRF high school allowing Forest Park students to attend. Just a thought.

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