Forest Park official: Used guard rails installed case-by-case

'Pile' of traffic barriers came from St. John's School lot

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By Jean Lotus


Forest Park Public Works Director John Doss said Tuesday that used traffic guard rails are installed on a case-by-case basis in Forest Park, if residents can prove damage to their fences or property.

Some residents were peeved when they noticed a guard rail installed by five public works employees on June 25 to protect Mayor Anthony Calderone's fence at Jackson Boulevard and Thomas Avenue.

"Every time I get a request, I go to the house and take a look at the damage," Doss said.

A Freedom of Information request made by the Forest Park Review revealed that Calderone made a report about a vehicle crashing into the west side of his fence sometime on May 14. Police estimated damage to be $1,000. Another police report from 2008 showed that an unknown vehicle struck the fence on Dec. 18. No damage assessment was given.

Doss said the mayor requested the guard rail installed next to his fence. Doss said the village has a pile of used guard rails in storage — left over from the St. John's School parking lot, which has now been converted into a community garden west of the school.

"Any guard rail I put up has been donated from the St. John's side yard," Doss said. "We've got a pile of them lying around."

He said he installed two in the past couple years — one at the T-intersection at 16th Street and Circle Avenue, where cars have ploughed into the guard rail, and one in the 800 block of Circle Avenue , where residents showed him damage to a fence.

"If somebody calls, I'll go over and do anything for anybody," he said. "I've never said no."

Sometimes a guard rail won't work, because of utility or traffic flow issues, Doss said.

"If that's the case, we cut an old light pole and fill it with cement and put that in."

Doss said a second guard rail near a Calderone-linked property at 1134 Circle Ave. was installed a year and a half ago. He can't remember who requested the guard rail, but he noted that the apartment building parking lot across the alley has a sloping driveway that can get slippery during winter.

Doss, who called the Review while on vacation, said he imagined he'd get a lot of requests for guard rails now.

"I understand everyone's going to want one, and it'll be opening up a can of worms," he said. "There will probably be a process going forward. I never thought this would be such a hot topic."

"If I can help anyone, I will."

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jerry from forest park  

Posted: July 11th, 2014 12:51 PM

@Fair is Fair, I am surprised it took them this long to pick on you. But this how they work, if you don't agree with their lies you are anti mayor thus EVIL. Well, the mayor could have defused this whole when the story first broke, he chose not to. Well I have to go now, I have to kill the vines encroaching on my lawn under my neighbors fence.

jerry from forest park  

Posted: July 11th, 2014 12:38 PM

@Forest Parker, I don't know if Backman always post under his own name, I will ask him the next time we talk. What I do find interesting is the people who knock VOX never use their real names. This begs the question have you ever been to a meeting of this group that provides information to the citizens of this village. It has never taken a political stand. We have members that do but not the group. Not sure what your comment has to do with guard rails.

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: July 11th, 2014 11:57 AM

@ Fair. Observer's most recent post proves the point, as you are now a suspected enemy of the village. I thought you behaving pretty damn normally and asking questions about a rather odd taxpayer affair but that's not how this village hall rolls. btw, I've heard many locals appreciate you sharing your thoughtful comments here - a welcome addition for sure.)

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: July 11th, 2014 11:15 AM

'Just a question, what exactly is the root cause of such venomous anger that you and your pals display toward some of the elected officials in town?' That's vintage Obstrudy- lots of meaningless questions, but no interest in hearing any answers. No matter how often people point out the lies and distain exhibited by some officials in FoPa, Obstrudy tries to paint it all as inexplicable personal attacks on wee meaning public servants. They're well meaning, for one, and they don't serve the public


Posted: July 11th, 2014 11:03 AM

@ The scap-metal Watch Dog group..There is no weird obsession. Just a question...what exactly is the root cause of such venomous anger that you and your pals display toward some of the elected officials in town? (why so personal) At least the well camouflaged "Fair is Fair" want's to present himself as a faux bridge-builder...where some of the others can't hide that militant activist style ;) Pretty sure "they" wouldn't leave good ol' Sharon out there to "scrap" on here alone ;)

Ike Yikes from Forest Park  

Posted: July 11th, 2014 9:00 AM

The Ike Expansion? You can't get more blatantly anti-Calderone than that! What a biased organization Vox is. Yikes!

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: July 11th, 2014 8:11 AM

@ Fair. You'd need a battalion of shrinks to figure out their obsession w/Vox but essentially they trot it out when they've got nothin'. Check out the website - Last year Vox offered two important-to-Forest Park presentations: one on Video Gambling and another on the Ike Expansion. This fall Vox will produce an info-event on PACs. Oh, and voter registration.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: July 11th, 2014 8:03 AM

@Fair is Fair: FP from FP and others are obsessed with ANY concerns expressed by taxpayers, obsessed with any criticisms of Calderone, no matter how valid. FF fm FP and Obstrudy and others do not tolerate questioning of the powers that be here. They're the problem, not VOX or any others who question,criticize or merely suggest alternative approaches. As for Backman posting under other names, that's just them projecting their own lack of ethics and integrity onto people with whom they disagree.

Fair is Fair from Forest Park  

Posted: July 10th, 2014 11:35 PM

Forest Parker-- I hate to encourage discussion on a purely irrelevant topic, but curiosity compels me to ask: What is this weird and petty obsession you and/or Observer have with identifying people as members of Vox? Quite frankly, I had to ask someone what Vox is. There are an awful lot of concerned taxpayers in this town, and the overwhelming majority belong to no group and, unlike you, harbor no personal grudges. They just want their taxes spent wisely and fairly.

Forest Parker from Forest Park  

Posted: July 10th, 2014 10:35 PM

Jerry from Forest Park: do you think Backman is only posting under his own name? Hmmm . .I would say when he does use his own name he's on excellent behavior(after the Hosty lawsuits--yes, plural-- and all, that may be mandatory) and you are very nice to up his credibility by claiming he only posts under his own name. You're a loyal comrade - VOX member maybe?.

Adding my vote! from FP  

Posted: July 10th, 2014 10:11 PM

Fair -- to be fair I'm not claiming this speaks to my core philosophy on governance for real but I'll say . . .D, everyone who needs one. Not everyone who is "...never,ever going to stop, Tony!!" until they get one. (I think that person no longer wants one anyway. Whew!)

My vote  

Posted: July 10th, 2014 10:28 AM

G. 50/50 like the sidewalks

Fair is Fair from Forest Park  

Posted: July 10th, 2014 10:10 AM

Here is a little survey to gauge your philosophical outlook on governance and the guardrail issue. I'm interested to hear where people stand: I believe that free guardrails should be provided to: a. just the mayor. he deserves some extra perks. b. only people in the know. c. only people who do favors for the mayor d. everyone who needs one. e. noone. we have bigger priorities f. either everyone who needs one, or noone, but be fair. g. everyone who needs one and chips in 50%

Kind of Surprised  

Posted: July 10th, 2014 8:59 AM

I wonder why a Plat of Survey isn't needed to have this installed? Especially if the mayor had it installed on public land! But favors are what the mayor seems to thrive on. And please let's not forget how he is lying on his homeowner property exemption. You cannot claim two as your main home! He claims his home on Jackson and the property on Circle. Anyone can check it. Just look at site. So he's stealing from us all (not paying his fair share).

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: July 10th, 2014 7:42 AM

Let me be the first to say, thanks, but i don't want a guardrail. They're weird. And stupidly expensive. And take up very limited space in our narrow alleys. Calderone's mistake was installing his alley fence right on his lot line, w/out any apron-y space to allow neighbors' cars to navigate. So his new guardrail is using up common (public) space which is simply not viable - esp if everyone wants one.

Fair is Fair from Forest Park  

Posted: July 10th, 2014 7:38 AM

@irritated: You raise a good issue. The Village is now committed to providing a free guardrail to anyone who needs one, in addition to the mayor. That may or may not be the best use of our taxes. Other needs may be more important, We need some public discussion of what our needs and priorities are. Policy decisions should not be made on a whim.

Wm Wilcox from FP  

Posted: July 10th, 2014 7:30 AM

With all due respect to John D he reports to the da mayor and relies on da mayor for his job. While services such as the installation of protective railings "are available to all" some people are more equal than others and they go to the top of the list when resources are allocated. This is another thing to think about while in the voting booth.

irritated from Forest Park  

Posted: July 10th, 2014 5:57 AM

How about instead of wasting taxpayer money on installing guardrails (that look hideous by the way) we do something useful like repave the streets on the south side of town.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: July 10th, 2014 1:39 AM

'all of this over some scrap metal.' See, that's the sort of patent b.s. by lying clowns like Obstrudy that has to be challenged. It isn't just 'scrap metal,' of course. It's the use of thousands of dollars times two that were directed by the mayor for his own personal benefit. This is an arrogant, corrupt man who feels he can do anything he wants, when he wants. Like some people in charge of school districts feel they can have district contractors work on rehabbing their house. The Proviso Way.

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 11:12 PM

I googled, too, Observer, and didn't find anything near as easy peasy lickety split as you found. let's just say the sources like to sell in lots larger than 20'. show us your links. We already know 4 trucks/5 workers/1/2 day for 20' is the baseline for labor - hahahaha. Give me a quote as I'd like it installed on Friday.

scrap metal  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 10:44 PM

nice try Obs. Except the mayor did not do it himself, nor find materials for free on craigslist and pick them up in his van. He made a call and it magically got done. A quote will tell us the market value, i.e. *the* value of goods and services he got for free. Even the reddest died in-the-wool Obama-loving Commie/Socialist, not to mention small business entrepreneurs like Tony, Tom & Mark, can understand the concept of valuing goods and services by getting quotes in a competitive market.


Posted: July 9th, 2014 10:20 PM

@ Jerry ...I usually go easy on you because you are obviously not .....never mind. Sharon..Google metal guard rails, plenty of options pop up and guess what? They are pretty we have some used guard rails (free) ,...ready ..set..go, drop a few holes, footings go in, some quick dry cement.. a level and it's plat of survey, no architect needed, now go to bed...The Vox invasion is a failure once again ;) No story here, just the usual hysterical ranting from the outsiders

scrap metal  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 10:07 PM

I honestly have no idea. Your number sounds reasonable, but I wouldn't be too surprised to get quotes half that or 3x that. Hence my suggestion to just call up some places and get actual quotes. (maybe a bit farther away who don't read FPR ;-)

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 9:48 PM

@ Scrap Metal. I'm guessing $5k for Calderone's Jackson property - $2k for materials (altho now we hear it's FREE!) $3k for labor/trucks. Doubt it's less. Once they bring out the trucks (4 of them!) it's a fortune. What do you think?

jerry from forest park  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 9:25 PM

Observer, who would know better about personel attacks than you as it is pretty much all you do. As for the husband and wife team, I don't recall the wife ever making a comment. The husband has, and unlike you he uses his name. He is not afraid to make a comment using his name but you sure the heck are. You are a snake in the grass at best. And @Fair this is a personel attack on someone who is pond slime.

scrap metal  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 7:52 PM

Sharon, call a few contractors and get a quote to put in the mayor's guard rail assuming used materials. That would give an estimate of the going rate for the goods and services provided to the mayor and a few others in-the-know. Obviously that amount doesn't depend on who is doing the calling or commenting. Also, I'm sure Tony, Tim, etc. appreciate Obs suggesting the we handicap their performance as public servants based on their families. hint: not personal, just a regular performance review.

Fair is Fair from Forest Park  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 7:35 PM

This isn't about "scrap metal"--first of all, the major cost of installing these guardrails is labor -- five village workers were apparently required to install the mayor's. This is about the fair and equitable distribution of village services. And Forest Park taxpayers being vigilant over how their taxes are spent. None of these matters concern you as an outsider. And none of this has to do with personal animosity towards anyone.


Posted: July 9th, 2014 7:17 PM

Wow, all of this over some scrap metal..Would it be "Fair" to speculate that more than a few of the more boisterous visitors are possibly members of Vox? I wouldn't be surprised if a husband & wife team is active here...Billy & Sharon are transparent, I must ask if either of them ever sat down with Tony or Tim ...Mark? Tom? and actually tried to get to know them? These guys come from great families, they are decent people that don't deserve the constant blistering personal attacks.

Fair is Fair from Forest Park  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 4:53 PM

Bill actually raised an excellent point earlier, about the labor costs associated with distributing a free guardrail to anyone who needs them. If the costs of this should prove prohibitive, should we ask the homeowners, as someone suggested, to chip in 50% of the cost, as they do for sidewalk repairs? And if that should be the case, should the mayor be asked to chip in retroactively for the guardrails he was given? Just hypothetically....

Fair is Fair from Forest Park  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 3:11 PM

Bill--would it be so hard for you to demonstrate your command of the facts and then let readers decide if Observer is telling the truth? It is a free country and both you and Observer are free to write anything you like. I am just telling you that what you are doing is, in my own personal opinion, not helpful to anyone. If you have a message, stick to it.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 2:46 PM

Then don't READ them, Fair is Fair. This isn't like shouting in your living room. If it feels too unpleasant for you, ignore it. The valid points still get made. It's simply not true that calling out a phony like Obstrudy distracts from ANYTHING, or that it blocks out the legitimate comments. This isn't like verbal conversation. Ignore who you want. Including me. I've said this before, I'll ay it again- I don't care. I say what I think, and you can agree, disagree, be disgusted, whatever.

Fair is Fair from Forest Park  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 2:24 PM

Bill D--In all honesty, what Observer wants is for you to engage in a war of personal insults with him, to distract from the topic at hand. I am sure you actually KNOW this. It is time for everyone here to stop feeding the trolls. Address their points (when it can be discerned they have one), but don't get into a shouting match. People are tired of the name-calling on both sides.

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 2:10 PM

Amazed from Forest Park: Obstrudy is a dissembling liar. I respect anyone's opinion on this board so long as they show a willingness to move the discussion forward and deal with the issues honestly. Obstrudy does none of that, and seeks only to muddy up the debate and carry water for Calderone, et al. I respect your opinion. Speak your mind here. But it's just too bad if how I characterize a liar like Obstrudy disgusts you. You'll just have to be disgusted.

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 12:05 PM

@ Amazed. Observer is a self-proclaimed out-of-towner, and active apologist for the powers that be who has spent the past year disrupting, distracting and generally trolling the Review Online. Last night he was policing the joint, attempting to shut down discussion on a topic that still needs sorting out. Telling him to 'buzz off' was not my first choice of words, but they were the words i wrote. Sorry you don't like my style.

Very True  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 11:27 AM

Yes, Fair Is Fair, if it were not for citizens of our village asking questions about guardrail installations, the only one who apparently knew of this wonderful free service, was the Mayor! The only way to work together for good, is to actually get the village powers to actually treat us citizens like human beings and not like small children that shouldn't know anything. Calderone was/is the petty one here. Mr. Homeowner Exemption. Does everyone else get to claim more than one home?

Fair is Fair from Forest Park  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 11:17 AM

Kimberly, if not for this story, most people would not even know that guardrails are available to those who need them. And now we are promised a standardized procedure to distribute them. Citizens asking questions of their elected officials is not drama. Elected officials complaining about their neighbor's vines in response to a question about village services? That's drama.

Kimberly from Forest Park  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 11:04 AM

If you all stop the drama and take a look around, you will notice that there are guardrails behind many corner properties. Let's instead work together with positive energy to make Forest Park a better community for all of us.

Fair is Fair from Forest Park  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 11:02 AM

I agree, Amazed, that it is time to stop the name calling on all sides; it is nothing but a distraction from the issues on hand. Let's stop focusing on personalities and private feuds and let's continue to ask tough questions of our elected officials. That's the only way we will get honest, effective government.

Michelle W from FP  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 11:01 AM

Fair is Fair, I completely agree. That's why it's probably time for a new approach. We're in a new era of transparency and accountability that some are uncomfortable with. It doesn't mean that everything done the old way is horrid, but it does mean we have room to grow. I think FP is great but it can be so much better. I want to see the town thrive for my own QOL as well as market value.

Amazed from Forest Park  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 10:56 AM

Bill why do you have to resort to calling people body parts? And, Sharon, the venom that spews out of you completely overshadows any point you may have thought you were making. You two are truly disgusting. How dare you use a public forum to lay off your obviously epic personal problems. This board is supposed to be for everyone and comments should be directed to the topic, not the other commenters. It's not up to you to chide others publicly. VOX is SO into "diversity" of opinion, right?

Fair is Fair from Forest Park  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 10:43 AM

It seems to me that in order to avoid the appearance of favoritism in distributing village services, the Village should have been keeping records of who requested guardrails, who received them, and why. And if it was Village policy all along to provide a guardrail to any resident with a demonstrated need for one, then it needed to actually communicate that to residents. And also wondering---what is the actual cost, in time and labor, of installing a guardrail?

Isn't it lovely  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 10:03 AM

That not only does the mayor get his free guardrails, he also gets to claim 2 homes in Forest Park with the Cook County Homeowner Exemption!! Wouldn't it be nice if we all got these perks.

Sorry for John  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 9:33 AM

Advice to John, it's a good thing to "take one for the team" now and again but please be careful and selective otherwise you will find you are the only one left on the team and stuck holding the bag. Shame on Calderone for abusing such a good, dedicated man like you.

Been Preferential for Years  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 9:33 AM

Forest Park has always been a preferential type town. And especially with Calderone at the helm. His famous 'gotta give sugar to get sugar' statement comes to mind. To get things done, you gotta know people and kiss their backside. To get information is like pulling teeth. Our village website is a mess; the village app is a joke!

Michelle W from FP  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 9:26 AM

This all suggests a transition from an old fashioned way of doing things to something more modern. Back in the day, knowing the right people was how you got things done. Intentional or not, this causes a perception of preferential treatment. Nowadays it's up to gov't to inform constituents about how things work so that all may benefit. FP has done great in the past decades, but perhaps this illustrates that we need change to ensure FP succeeds in the years ahead.

Fair is Fair from Forest Park  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 4:59 AM

Exactly how many guardrails are in a "pile", anyway? Have these things ever been inventoried? Are there enough to go around?

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: July 9th, 2014 2:44 AM

Guard rails on demand. There's a policy created on the fly. Sure would like to see documentation of village council discussion on this 'policy,' wherein the labor costs were discussed and approved. When was it discussed? When was it formally approved? This is a pile of ad hoc b.s. thrown together to cover the mayor's butt. These people lie like normal people breathe.

Sharon Daly from Forest Park, Illinois  

Posted: July 8th, 2014 11:07 PM

@ Observer. You have no standing in this matter, Florida Boy - way out of your jurisdiction to insist we 'put this to bed.' Buzz off. The mayor could have put this issue to bed himself a week ago (!), by telling us exactly what John Doss told us tonight. But he didn't because today's story is the best they could come up with - in a week. Did i mention it took them a week (!) to 'compose' this story? But it's nice to know this newly discovered service is FREE to any prop owner whose fence has been dinged. Pay up, Tony, or this will never, ever end. Tell us that you are just waiting for the invoice, um, invoices.


Posted: July 8th, 2014 9:33 PM

@ fake hootyjunk ;) ....leave JD alone..This topic has run it's want a guardrail call and ask for one...


Posted: July 8th, 2014 9:08 PM

Observer how do you know that JD is @ a resort?


Posted: July 8th, 2014 8:29 PM

@ idea what you are talking about. I think it's time to put this nonsense to bed.

Muddy Mudskipper from FP  

Posted: July 8th, 2014 6:37 PM

@Observer: Please hear me out. I can (through reading, I think, all the comments) fall right down the middle of this issue. It is clear that you fall on the side of the Mayor and that is perfectly fine. I hate to drag this comment section off point but I really want to know (and if you have no idea I can accept that) but who are these people who think Obama has something/anything to do with this? I didn't vote for the guy, but I'm missing the connection. Like I said, be polite, but do you know?


Posted: July 8th, 2014 6:27 PM

Should have edited that last comment better - Sorry! I would very much like to know the cost involved, and, as someone mentioned earlier, is it a Village borne cost or is it shared with the homeowner?


Posted: July 8th, 2014 6:22 PM

I will agree with JD that this has opened up a can of worms. I have a neighbor who lives on the corner of a T alley. She was just telling me that she would love a new fence, but as she gets it from both her side (fence) and garage (back), she knows it would be putting good money after bad. If there is a process to be put in place - for any resident - it should have already been written. Our Public Works Dept. will now be inundated, with a further waste of time and resources wasted.

Fair is Fair from Forest Park  

Posted: July 8th, 2014 6:14 PM

And in all honesty: Compare John Doss's helpful, open response to this question with Mr. Calderone's rambling, nonsensical and off-topic diatribe about his neighbor's invasive vines. Which one is the sort of response you'd like to hear from your mayor?

Bill Dwyer  

Posted: July 8th, 2014 6:09 PM

Pound it, Obstrudy. This isn't about John Doss. He's a hard working, honorable guy and the village is lucky to have bios services. This is about Tony Calderone and his arrogance and expectation of perks and privileges way beyond anything he's earned as mayor. Doss doesn't run Forest Park, Obstrudy, you dissembling putz. Calderone does. For his own benefit, and after that's satisfied, whoever else supports him.


Posted: July 8th, 2014 6:06 PM

*public or private property and who paid for it. The Mayor has used a valuable public service under the guise of "well, all you had to do was call".


Posted: July 8th, 2014 6:04 PM

Observer - it is NOT over. This is not a trivial issue. I go down Circle to 16th all the time - that guardrail has been there forever. Maybe it gets changed from time to time when someone plows into it. I need to check if that is pub

Still fishy  

Posted: July 8th, 2014 6:02 PM

Still hate that our mayor had to evade everything and make pretend he knew nothing. Stinking liar! It is ashame that John had to do this while still grieving the death of his sister. Shame on the mayor.

Fair is Fair from Forest Park  

Posted: July 8th, 2014 5:59 PM

Without this ruckus, few in town would have known these guardrails were available to those who need them. So this was a valuable discussion. The fairness with which village services are distributed remains an important topic. Greater transparency in government would have served everyone better, especially the mayor. The mayor apparently had nothing to hide, but judging from his initial defensive response, I'm not sure he knew it. Which is interesting in itself.


Posted: July 8th, 2014 5:53 PM

@ Really....maybe...just possibly...JD has a laptop or computer access from the resort he is at..and by golly he checks the Review online...he saw the infantile uproar and took decisive action to quell the clamoring town criers ;)'s over ...


Posted: July 8th, 2014 5:40 PM

So all it takes is for John Doss to "happen" to read the Review while on vacation to calm the ruckus? If there are a "pile" of these things just "laying around", why wasn't this advertised as a Village service? Why is the ONLY person to get this perk the Mayor? Oh right, because he "knew who to ask". Shouldn't we all know who to ask? Can't wait to see the bill for this!

jerry Collins from Culver in.  

Posted: July 8th, 2014 5:25 PM

People cannot blame John Doss .


Posted: July 8th, 2014 5:25 PM

Well then....I guess it's time to turn the page. Mr. Doss has put this nonsense to rest. I'm sure we will hear from Billy somewhere from middle earth with a wacky spin on this...;) double entendre

Owen from Forest Park  

Posted: July 8th, 2014 5:03 PM

Jerry, I can see that, but I also think people are looking for controversy where there really isn't any. Guy just knew who to ask, and he rightfully didn't realize why some folks think it's controversial. Now if only the mayor could use his "power" to get my alley redone...

rose from forest park  

Posted: July 8th, 2014 4:58 PM

I agree that it was a necessary step to take. It was all about safety. How things get blown out of proportion like this is the most interesting part of this story. Thanks to John Doss and a great public works department. Always there for Forest Park!

jerry from forest park  

Posted: July 8th, 2014 4:54 PM

Owen, if you look at the mayors response he kind of bought this on himself. A simple explanation would have solved this he chose not to give it. People might not have believed it but he had a chance and didn't take it.

Owen from Forest Park  

Posted: July 8th, 2014 4:32 PM

I kinda thought this was a little bit overblown. The mayor wasn't asserting his power, he was basically using a service that wasn't really well known. We can all put the pitchforks down now.

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